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    This team has a number of problems, evaluating talent. Be it free agents or draft picks, they don't get the performance out of players outside of the top line.
    They are still changing out goalies as frequently as ever. How many wish they could get Bob back? IMHO they gave up on Bob very early. He wins a Vezina and the Flyers are trying to figure out who will be their next goalie in the rotation chair.
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    To the list I would add forward speed, especially at center. The PK probably improves with a few more guys that have the ability to get to a spot to pressure the puck rather than chasing the play or having to play a soft zone defense.

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    It's just not time yet. They are about 2/3 of the way through a rebuild.

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    PK and secondary scoring. Other than that they are essentially a playoff team. Pk alone has cost them more points than they are back. Inexcusable really that lappy still has a job other than conditioning.

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    I suspect over the last few years there hasn't been many teams making the playoffs with a PK ranked 29th, so yeah, that's by far the #1 reason.

    Team success in the NHL has been pretty much special-teams driven ever since the 2004 lockout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryboy7 View Post
    I suspect over the last few years there hasn't been many teams making the playoffs with a PK ranked 29th, so yeah, that's by far the #1 reason.

    Team success in the NHL has been pretty much special-teams driven ever since the 2004 lockout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryboy7 View Post
    I suspect over the last few years there hasn't been many teams making the playoffs with a PK ranked 29th, so yeah, that's by far the #1 reason.

    Team success in the NHL has been pretty much special-teams driven ever since the 2004 lockout.
    Exactly. How many games has it cost them already? As Andy says, 'we can all do the math'. Give them a middle of the pack PK and they are firmly in PO position even with their other flaws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yourtenderloins View Post
    It's just not time yet. They are about 2/3 of the way through a rebuild.
    Question: When did the rebuild start 2010, 2000, 1987, 1976?
    Do we reset the clock when the Coach/GM are fired?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryboy7 View Post
    I suspect over the last few years there hasn't been many teams making the playoffs with a PK ranked 29th, so yeah, that's by far the #1 reason.

    Team success in the NHL has been pretty much special-teams driven ever since the 2004 lockout.
    One weakness and a team can work around it - except in goal. When it comes playoff time it's typically the team with the hot goalie the survives.
    If you don't have that stud, you better be able to put up points at will, not just one line, but at the least 3 lines have to be goal getters.
    To do that you can't rely on "team defense". When you need your forwards to play defense, you take the edge off their offense.

    How much of that sounds like the Flyers?

    It's not just one thing, it's almost everything. Which is not to say they don't have some good players. I think it was the BJ's announcers who thought they were a high skill team. That they had "team speed". But I think with all the decent draft position they have had, they have come up short on getting a real difference maker. And when they do have a really good player, they will part with him if he doesn't develop in the time frame they pulled out of their ass.
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